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Lemme put it in a different perspective. Haynesworth didn't do any off season training with the team. From the article on the Eagles camp:

Jackson and Samuel were early arrivals not because they wanted to get the top bunks but because coach Andy Reid told them to be there early. Over an hour before the rookies practiced in the morning, the pair ran 100-yard sprints.

They were completing the conditioning test they missed in June, according to a team source, when they skipped the last week of voluntary workouts. Several players said Jackson and Samuel were required to be here early not for the fitness test but because they didn't complete off-season training.

Apparently all teams do this when a player doesn't complete their off season team training. So for the Player's Union to go after Shanny for doing what I'm guessing all teams do with all their players that don't complete off season conditioning, that's making Haynesworth the exception to the rule that all teams put all other players through.

Sure, Shanny may be adding in more running. He may be moving him further away from the camp that other teams move players that need to complete these training regiments. If they fail to run what the team wants from training, they may not make the player run the treadmill to get back into playing shape.

Sure, he can come down with an 'injury' and say screw it. And with the CBA being reworked right now, the players association has very little grounds to go after him. He may be building the blocks to get cut and get sued by the team for not living up to his end of the contract (like what the Raiders are doing with Russell), and if he goes through this I'm pretty sure no team will want him on their sidelines, let alone their field.

what does the CBA have to do with something the NFLPA might see as unfair

Lyte, if the test is any different than the normal test and Haynesworth filed a grievance, the Skins could be fined or lose draft picks.

Beyond that, it seems like the players aren't really behind it.

Shanny can do whatever he wants, but I just think it might be one of those situations where it's a lot more trouble than its worth to show somebody up.

there's a problem when you're doing something Reid learned was a mistake 10+ years ago

From what I read, they timed him on 100 yard runs. He didn't pass the first time, didn't pass the second time and on the third run he WALKED. He was then sent to do extra conditioning.

If the NFL is going to fine/remove picks from teams that want their players in shape, or participating in training camp (because let's be honest, if you walk when you're supposed to be running, that's not really participating), then is it really outside of the realm of irrisponsibility?

The NFL is trying to crack down on problem players. Haynesworth is the posterboy for lazy athletes that got paid and don't give a crap anymore. If the NFL wants to reward players, why go after cases like Ben who were 'image cleanup' projects? They had no reason unless they wanted to clean up the image.

Haynesworth missed off season conditioning. He was being tested to see if he was conditioned properly and failed. Then they put him on things to get him in condition.

Seriously, why are you defending this peice of crap?

he lost like 40 pounds and showed up in great shape

also, it's not just running, they're making him complete the the shuttles in a certain amount of time.

he passed his first time. b/c he spent a couple minutes extra in the bathroom, they negated the results. retarded and childish

what does the CBA have to do with something the NFLPA might see as unfair

I'm assuming the CBA sets regulations for what contact the players have with the teams, from off season camps, TC and practices. With the CBA in limbo/being worked on, what is allowed between the union and the teams goes back to what was in place before the recent expired CBA was in place. Since Shanny got away with this shit in 2008 with the old CBA in place though, it's likely what's official now will have less restraint on what Shanny can get away with for the purposes of training.

As long as he's not making him wear a dress or stand upside down or something crazy, and he's making him run and do agility drills after failing running tests, I'm pretty sure there's nothing the NFLPA can do about this. Any claim by them is going to sound like an Al Sharpton rant.

As far as I know, the CBA has only to do with money and contracts, not rules for how coaches teach teams

As long as he's not making him wear a dress or stand upside down or something crazy, and he's making him run and do agility drills after failing running tests, I'm pretty sure there's nothing the NFLPA can do about this. Any claim by them is going to sound like an Al Sharpton rant.

there's a very good chance this is incorrect. i'm not sure you understand the rules at play

he lost like 40 pounds and showed up in great shape

What was his arriving weight? His trainer said he 'lost 40 lbs' but 40lbs from what? His playing weight last year of 350lbs? Or was it 40lbs of Dairy Queen added on in the off season to try to get back down to 350? Do you have anything other than his trainer stating in an interview what he weighed in at camp? Because it sounds like he was out of shape from everything I'm reading, and the 40 lbs was fast weight loss so he didn't come in around 400lbs, which lowers the body's stamina.

I'll speculate at the 400lbs down to 360lbs if we're going to speculate. Show me wrong and I'll believe this tard wasn't sitting down drinking hoho's from a straw.

you're speculating incorrectly all over the place. Did you read the article or look at pics? He's not fat

As far as I know, the CBA has only to do with money and contracts, not rules for how coaches teach teams

Come on KB, it's called the "COLLECTIVE BARGANING AGREEMENT", it's not just about contracts.

Yo, click it.

Add 16 pages because of the index. No 'official' testing for conditioning is listed there, just regulations on when the players are supposed to appear at camp, what is mandatory minicamps (i.e. when a player misses attending mandatory minicamps they are fined), and when players can report, etc. Nothing about what can and cannot go on during then.

This is the test he FAILED TWICE

Yo, click it

Fair raitings for Defensive linemen (the lowest passing grade) are 65-66.9 seconds. He couldn't complete them in under 70 seconds.

Tell me again how great shape he's in.

Right, it just shows when they have to show up to get paid. It has nothing to do with how the team is allowed to treat the player, like i said

As I said, he passed it already. They got rid of the results b/c he went pottie a little too long

And there are Skins players saying they'd never pass it either

KB, he failed it again today.



I'm not finding a ton of photos of him at camp, and still no one has reported what he weighed in at, just what his traininers say he lost. Again, the trainers are throwing out a loss number without giving a current weight, so when there is no fact I reserve my right to speculate, and as I mentioned above all I am doing is speculating about his weight.

He has to complete the first run in 70 seconds. After a 3 1/2 minute break he must pass the second run in 73 seconds. He took longer than that in the bathroom. Tried it two more times after that, and didn't pass them. Tried it again today, failed again.

Technically, outside of one run under 70 seconds, he hasn't been able to break that since. What did he do in that bathroom I wonder?

i have no idea, just seems pretty stupid, and detrimental to the team, to have him keep doing this and not practicing with the team b/c he went wee-wee a couple minutes too long. completely retarded.

none of the linemen would pass this test the first day of camp.

If everyone drives 10 mph over the speed limit, do you tell the cop pulling you over for driving 3mph over the speed limit that everyone was doing more than that? Does that make it any less wrong that you were over the speed limit?

These are drills that are allowed for conditioning. Albert wasn't on hand in the offseason for the mandatory minicamps. The team wants him in shape because they just paid him 30 million this off season and he then decided not to show up to camps.

Tell me again why this is Shanny's fault for wanting to push him to be in conditioned?

fuck the DTC and fuck the illegal indians

Dez Bryant out 4-6 weeks with ankle injury.

Douchebag, Mr. Sense of Entitlement, better carry some pads next time...

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