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BTW, Marty was asked today in his press conference if McNabb was having any shoulder issues and Marty flatly said "no".

So, someone's lying (my guess is the liar rhymes with steagles).

Is that an UBER Sighting????

What's an Uber?

One things for certain- the Eagles cant be accused of not learning from their mistakes last yr regarding Special Teams- especially the return phases of the game.

Seth, the tragedy is that they made the mistake in the first place since it was so stupid, particularly in the context of Reid's overpreparedness.

The throwing motion is different in baseball and football. The "cuff" tears are of course higher in ANYONE that does alot of overhand motions (swimmers, pitchers, QBs, etc). My guess is his training regimen (didnt know he wasn't catching toy dogs again this year) seems like the plausible culprit.

the tragedy is that they made the mistake in the first place, since it was so predictable, particularly in the context of Reid's stubborn adherence to his beloved system

There, fixed it for you

From Philly.com:

Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg said nothing is wrong with Donovan McNabb's shoulder. McNabb's passes seemed to have more zip yesterday than on Wednesday, when wideout Kevin Curtis said McNabb had a little soreness. "He really had a good day today," Mornhinweg said of McNabb. "He really threw the ball well . . . He was impressive today.

FWIW, Cobb also said that McNabb threw the ball extremely well yesterday so who knows???

the tragedy is that they made the mistake in the first place, since it was so predictable, particularly in the context of Reid's stubborn adherence to his beloved system

There, fixed it for you

I don't think it's fair to blame Reid's system for the special teams fiascos early last season. I think the blame falls on Reid, the GM who didn't pick up a punt returner who could catch the ball.

From Philly.com:

Offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg said nothing is wrong with Donovan McNabb's shoulder. McNabb's passes seemed to have more zip yesterday than on Wednesday, when wideout Kevin Curtis said McNabb had a little soreness. "He really had a good day today," Mornhinweg said of McNabb. "He really threw the ball well . . . He was impressive today.

FWIW, Cobb also said that McNabb threw the ball extremely well yesterday so who knows???

I think the Eagles aren't being honest about it because I don't think Curtis said it for the hell of it.

That said, the fact that he the the ball better yesterday is a good sign that it maybe isn't serious or a long term issue.

I meant his insistance that he can plug any old player into his system and it will work.

Work as a maitre dé, now you're a RB. No experience playing HS or College, go coach our LBs. Never returned a kick at any level, get in there. Why have a #1 when we can have 3 #2s?

It's maddening to see him use inferior talent. It sometimes appears that he would prefer to go 8-8 with 6-10 talent than go 12-4 with 13-3 talent. His blind devotion to his system has hurt them and will continue to do so.

poke,
Where's the inferior talent?

McNabb? Westbrook? You have legit gripes with the WRs, but the rest of the offense is pretty solid - even TEs. They tried getting Moss and he turned down more money. They've talked to Zona, but Zona wasn't going to let a top, young WR leave. I think they try to get WR talent, but most teams don't let legit WRs - even disgruntled weidos like CJ - leave town easily.

On the D, there may be talent issues at LB (too young to judge) and, to a lesser degree, DE, but every team has holes in their roster.

I think that from a talent perspective, this could be one of the better/deeper Eagles D's in a long time.

I think that from a talent perspective, this could be one of the better/deeper Eagles D's in a long time.

I'm hopeful, but I'm reserving judgment until I see it after being fooled a couple years ago.

If Bunk blossoms, Bradley delivers on his promise, Gocong takes another step forward, Dawk returns to form (somewhat), the DE rotation progresses, and the CBs stay healthy, there's no doubt this D should be borderline dominant.

There are just a lot of questions, though.

- Dawk could be done.
- Gocong could be exposed in coverage.
- Bunk must just be "solid" and not great.
- Bradley might not be the playmaker he appeared to be.
- If Abiamiri doesn't develop, the front 4 might get pushed around in the run game.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but I have to see it happen at this point.

Regarding Bunk, I was trying to say he "might just be solid and not great".

I think he's a big key here...maybe the biggest. If he's a solid run player good for 3 or 4 sacks, that's one thing. If he starts to deliver on his potential and is an 8 sack guy (or at least generates that kind of push), it makes everything around him more impressive.

I think that from a talent perspective, this could be one of the better/deeper Eagles D's in a long time.

That all rests on the LBs. Luckily, the Eagles addressed the concern of a young LB group by breaking the bank on LB coach.

I think that 2001 defense was pretty good/deep.
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NCSF, Westbrook was a flat out steal. No one thought he would be the player he is. But with the exception of the 2002 draft (which was an absolute HR), most of their drafts have been poor to lousy. Generally generating 1 OK player from the first 4 rounds, but very few standout guys.

They seem to collect guys that are projects or tweeners. Mahe, Simoneau, McDougle, Na Brown, Gari Scott. Then they hang on to these guys long after they've proved unable to play at the NFL level.

My biggest gripe is with his Offense. He took an option QB with accuracy issues and has forced him into a precision Offense. He then gives that QB mid-level talent and has him pass the ball 65% of the time. I give 5 all the credit in the World for making this work as well as it has.

I fear this team will fluctuate between 6-10 & 10-6 until something shakes up the Reid Regime.

mid-level talent at WR

Point taken.

Taking a QB that has accuracy issues and giving him mediocre WR talent and/or lack of WR development is probably not the best way to run a pass first offense.

I think his accuracy issues are partly based on ability (he's just not a pinpoint passer) and partly based on who he is as a player.

Every QB needs WRs to make plays for him, bail him out, and get separation.

I think between FB scaring the bejesus out of him with INTs AND his lack of faith in the WRs, he's suffered a little bit there.

I mean, when he had T.O. in 2004, his completion % was 64. That was 7th in the league, 4th in the NFC, and a few points higher than guys like Tom Brady, Carson Palmer, and Matt Hasselbeck. It was also only a completion or so per game lower than guys like Manning and Bulger.

F-dallas. I could have sworn we had this EXACT same argument before, with you arguing that McNabb had "good" accuracy, and me taking the EXACT position that you just stated in your last post. With T.O. being the reason McNabb's numbers in every category going up.

Do you remember this?

There was a lot of "stat Googling", I remember that.

Every QB needs WRs to make plays for him, bail him out, and get separation.

True, but I look at it as based on gameplan. When Vick was on the field, the team always had to have at least one guy watch where he was and try to stop his scrambling. This doesn't mean passrush, this means staying at the LoS and making sure he doesn't break one.

That means one guy less in coverage or rushing. That opens up guys more. The same can be said for every type of playmaker in the league. When you have Moss on one side, you can either 1-1 and expect to get exposed or add extra coverage, which takes a guy off of deep coverage/out of the middle/off of the passrush.

Now, when you have an immobile QB, or a mobile one that runs less than he could, you can throw rushers and worry less. 5-6 years ago, McNabb would run a lot more than he has recently. It allowed him to get some guys open and make plays. Now, he rarely runs, and they spy him less. This sends more passrushers or backs more people in coverage, limiting his options.

I'm not saying he has to run more, he just needs to do it enough to make people gameplan around it. They just need someone besides Westbrook that teams need to gameplan around. If that's a TE or a WR, or maybe a second RB that can matchup with Westbrook in the backfield, that's fine. But no one is spying McNabb anymore, and if Westbrook is covered by an elite defenseman, that means they're just going to rush more than before.

That can be said for any Offense, though. Stop Tomlinson and the Chargers struggle, pound Brady and the Pats are less effective. The reason great teams do well is because they have more than one option. When you played the Cowboys, you had to worry about Smith & Irvin, the Steelers had Harris & Swann-Stallworth. The only team I can think of that was basically 1 guy was Jim Brown's Browns.

My complaint is still the shit talent passed off as shinola.

Take Chad Lewis. Nice guy, servicable TE. But not exactly a great talent. Yet after bouncing around the NFL for a few years, he manages to play at a "Pro Bowl" level for the Eagles. Why? Did he all of a sudden find his inner Tony Gonzalez? Did the rest of the league just not see his potential? Or was it Reid's genius system?

I'm sure Cap'n Andy believes the last one, but the real reason is that 5 had f*ck-all to throw to at WR and his only option was the Mormon in the middle.

This is the reason why I have little confidence that this team will win a Championship.

It's not Banner's penny pinching or the Curse of Billy Penn. It's not the pressure put on by the Fans or the relentless Media. It's not the game plan or the adjustments, either.

It's Reid's core belief that his system trumps talent.

Teams have run cover 0 defenses which amount to the all-out blitzes that work to perfection in older Madden games EXCEPT when McNabb had TO.

The problems:

* the WRs suck. Every WR cut by this team was never resigned elsewhere except for Charles Johnson for a brief stint with the Pats and McOvenmitts. Gari Scott (bagging groceries at the self-checkout lines), Na Brown still convinced that his mom was right that McNabb was hating on him and still lives at home, F Mitchell (nuff said), Thrash (resigned by the Skins but doesn't count), Stinky (nobody could see him to hand him a contract), etc and so forth.

* Reid doesn't let McNabb audible. These guys meet all criteria for an enmeshed couple where Reid (dad) can't let go. He couldn't even let Childress call plays for several games before resuming his throne as Lord of the Laminated but stained Play Card

I once was convinced McNabb would reverse the discoveries of sliced bread, fire and the wheel. Now, I'm sure that Reid is largely responsible for his inability to grow by his micromanagerial skills and his unflagging determination to NOT get a single effin' playmaker that catches a ball.

Oh yeah, let's not forget that once he gets his "skyrocketeer" under center, Reid insists on his unheralded genius 70/30 pass-run ratio.

Reid is the manifestation of the Wile E Coyote's indomitable spirit to catch the RoadRunner at all costs with ever more elaborate schemes but refusing to fucking buy a meal rather than get rocket propelled roller skates to catch his fkn food. I think Bush should imprison him at Gitmo for violating genetic/stem cell research since there had to be some donkey DNA spliced into his questionably human DNA.

Just so I'm not burying the Mule under a pile of steaming shit without giving him a straw to breathe air from, I WILL give him credit for building the lines as the core focus of his team. The only problem is that he's been building that core for 9 years.

Reid is the manifestation of the Wile E Coyote's indomitable spirit to catch the RoadRunner at all costs with ever more elaborate schemes but refusing to fucking buy a meal rather than get rocket propelled roller skates to catch his fkn food.

NTF

Anyone else think that Curtis would be much better at the slot, rather than the outside?

Would you rather have:
1.X-Curtis
Z-Brown
Y-Avant

2.X-Basket
Z-Brown
Y-Curtis

3.X-Curtis
Z-Brown
Y-Jackson

4.X-Brown
Z-Curtis
Y-Basket

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