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11/2/2007 12:21 PM
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I don't know how to feel good about the Eagles chances.
The Cowboys aren't much better than the Eagles, but given the state of McNabb's play, the Eagles refusal to run, and the Coach has been distracted all week (in addition to the Cowboys having the bye to prepare and a tough loss they want to overcome).
Just doesn't feel like a W to me, but it would be great if it happened.
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11/2/2007 12:32 PM
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FD,
You really are delusional. I'm not sure how you can think the boys' aren't much better then the beagles. Look at common opponents, stats, record..... I am not sure there is much of a comparison.
O and the cowboys didnt lose the week before the bye.
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11/2/2007 1:13 PM
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SnB,
This team lost to the Giants while having 5 of its pro-bowlers injured (including half their starting secondary) and a head coach who left his rookie (essentially) LT without help against a premier rusher.
They lost to the Pack by not having a return man.
The lost a winnable game to the Skins and McNabb looked like Bledsoe in the pocket against them.
This team hardly gives up many points to teams that CAN score them: Giants and Packers.
Outside of a meltdown in the last minute, this team beat the Bears.
How is that being delusional? The team's crummy record isn't a good reflection of the teams ability overall because of some truly boneheaded situations they put themselves in....but the Boys aren't much better. Their offense is, but their defense isn't.
What's so hard about understanding that? The NFC East bites and the NFC in general is lousy.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 1:19 PM
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FD,
You really are delusional. I'm not sure how you can think the boys' aren't much better then the beagles. Look at common opponents, stats, record..... I am not sure there is much of a comparison.
O and the cowboys didnt lose the week before the bye.
I don't think they are much better and neither does Vegas, obviously.
3 points, dude. The Cowboys should win, they have the better team, and that's what I expect that to happen.
Your delusion that the Cowboys are anything other than a "good NFC team" is hilarious. They needed every second of the game to beat the lowly Bills and got their tits kicked in against a truly elite team like everyone else.
The Cowboys should win, but you're clearly delusional about where they stand in the grand scheme of things.
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Dino727
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11/2/2007 1:21 PM
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The Eagles defense is better than the Cowboys defense. Just sayin.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 1:36 PM
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And SNB, since when do you play the role of the realist? You come to the site a few times every year, declare lopsided Cowboys victories, and go back into hiding.
Pardon me if I think you're a little biased.
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11/2/2007 1:41 PM
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I am not delusional. I believe the NFC East is the best division in the NFC. I fully agree the NFC is far behind 1 team in the AFC. I don't believe that the AFC is better in general.
The Bears are fuckin horrible. They are not much better then the Rams if any. You can come up with reasons why any game is close but in the end the record says it all.
I could sit here and say the boys could have lost to Buffalo because they didnt have any tape on thier QB, didnt see any of the schemes the bills did before that night. Newmans hurt, Ferg is out, I had a hemmoroid, the nieghbor didn't swallow. Please!!
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11/2/2007 1:42 PM
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When is the last time I made a lopsided prediction and it was a cowboys win. I am a realist. I don't think you can say the same FD.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 1:43 PM
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What was your prediction for the last time the Eagles played the Cowboys?
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 1:47 PM
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Ah...I can save you some time.
You declared the Eagles were overmatched and the Cowboys would win 34-17.
Shocker.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 1:51 PM
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Defend yourself, clown.
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11/2/2007 1:55 PM
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I cant say that I remember that. I do remember saying that I thought the eagles and cowboys would split there games last year.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 1:59 PM
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I went back and looked at the Eagles/Cowboys prediction thread from last year.
I didn't specifically remember it either, but it wasn't shocking when I went back and looked.
I guess I'm surprised you're surprised.
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Seth in 736
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11/2/2007 2:36 PM
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Im likin the friction on the site over this- if for no other reason, the seasons to date for both teams have the Boys fans thumpin those chests and thinkin theyre something, when sadly, they arent and are only a tad better than some other teams in a crummy, CRUMMY NFC.
Period.
It will be fun to see Dallas whining to refs around the third Qtr. for calls as they're start to feel a tad threatened- they seem to have this air about em like they're goin to waltz in here at win.
Tony Romo and TO- neither (IMO) will have a good game (Romo MAY, TO I doubt) and a recent blueprint will be put forth for the rest of Dallas' opponents for the remainder of 07.
It really (IMO) comes down to pressure on Romo and bottling up Witten, not Owens.
Do those two things- and the turnovers should come- get 2 or more turnovers and the Birds will win this game.
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jerobi
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11/2/2007 2:46 PM
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Romo to Witten will be painful. Owens will likely have a few successful sideline routes and one TD to the back corner of the endzone.
I also think that this will come down to a battle of turnovers.
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11/2/2007 2:49 PM
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I'm not much into stats, but if you look at the 'team' numbers, Dallas is ranked higher than Philly, but not by very much. Truth is, there's just not a lot of difference in the between these two squads - especially on defense.
Total Offense: Boys #2 Birds #8
Passing Off.: Boys #3 Birds #10
Rushing Off.: Boys #9 Birds #13
Total Def.: Boys #6 Birds #9
Passing Def.: Boys #13 Birds #15
Rushing Def.: Boys #5 Birds #8
The way I see it, anything can happen. The variables seem to be Reid's play-calling philosphy for the Eagles and the Boys have F. Adams who's good for maybe three false starts and maybe Kosier will nulify a third down conversion (or two) with a holding penalty again.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 2:57 PM
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RE: Witten from a few posts up. I don't know how anyone could say he's better than Gates, but he's not any worse.
He's a monster, IMO.
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Dino727
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11/2/2007 2:59 PM
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rankings, spankings.
PPG allowed - Eagles 16.7 (ranked 6th), Dallas 22.6 (ranked 20th)
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starless
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11/2/2007 3:02 PM
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There you go...look hard enough and you can always find something to back up your point of view.
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KeithByars
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11/2/2007 3:04 PM
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I think Witten is a tier below Gates
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Dino727
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11/2/2007 3:04 PM
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I'm pretty sure games are decided by point, not rushing yards allowed.
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Dino727
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11/2/2007 3:09 PM
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to clarify, just defending my Eagles D is better comment. No doubt the Girls O is better.
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Seth in 736
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11/2/2007 3:10 PM
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He's on the slow side, when you're lining him up in comparison with Gates, the Winslows, the Vernon Davis'- no question.
But the guy has Romo LOCKED IN ON HIM and is just great at usin his body to shield defenders- he's big enuff to present a match up issue for some LBs and most DBs- and again- he has a monopoly on Romo's passes.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 3:11 PM
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In defense of the Cowboys, their points allowed are a little skewed by the Pats dropping 48 on them.
In defense of the Eagles, their yardage allowed is skewed by the massive numbers the Lions put up in vain.
There's also the fact that the Cowboys have played 2 teams with a winning record and they dumped a combined 83 points on them.
Eh...numbers are a scary thing.
One number that's impressive to me is the points allowed by the Eagles given the fact that they are 31st in the league for turnovers forced. It's really tough to play as well as they have without field position ever swinging your way AND no turnovers coming.
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f-dallas
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11/2/2007 3:15 PM
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He's on the slow side, when you're lining him up in comparison with Gates, the Winslows, the Vernon Davis'- no question.
But the guy has Romo LOCKED IN ON HIM and is just great at usin his body to shield defenders- he's big enuff to present a match up issue for some LBs and most DBs- and again- he has a monopoly on Romo's passes.
I don't think Gates is a fast guy, but Vernon Davis definitely is. He also has sucked balls so far (that could be a product of the offense, though).
I wanna say Gates ran in the 4.7- 4.8 range.
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