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Forget it. Trust me, that's what it says.

However, you have to weigh the pluses and minuses right now. With Baskett and Avant, you have two players with Kewshawn-type skill sets.

I'm willing to give you that Baskett is worth give a shot to prove himself, and G Lewis has been rumored to be on the trading block(or at least was before the draft) So they have Brown, Curtis(who we're hoping will pick up the O quickly) Baskett. I'd rather have another known quantity in KJ then to find out Avant is another flop at WR.

I'd rather have another known quantity in KJ

100% agreed if you can get him for the price you want especially if you think this is the year to make a run. One thing about Baskett I liked was that he seemed to be a good downfield blocker, but with KJ you don't lose any of that as he is one of the best blocking WRs in the game. Now if Reid is serious about evening out the run/pass ratio then KJ becomes a huge plus in that scheme. A hard-nosed player who will catch tough balls over the middle on 3rd down as well. And if he acts the fool then just cut the bastard. It's not as if they'd be leaning on him to make the offense click.

I'm not against it.

However, it's one of those "at what cost" situations. They like Avant and Baskett a lot. I like Avant and Baskett a lot.

Both of those guys showed flashes of what they are capable of last year and one of them is going to play a significant role on this team within the next 2 years.

Do you stunt the growth of both guys for a player who is a slight upgrade and on his way out?

I'd rather have the "know" too, but you have to consider those guys in the equation because they could be as productive as Keyshawn would be this year and moreso in the future as Key declines.

f-d I have no idea what you saw in Avant last year as he barely touched the field, let alone the ball.

Are the Patriots worried about stunting Chad Jackson's growth for a year?

And he was their second round pick.

I'd pass on MeeShawn. He is a decent possession reciever, but he has no speed and would probably want to be a starter here. At this point, I would rather have a guy like Curtis on the field over a big, slow posession receiver like MeeShawn---besides they already have a big, slow possession receiver in Baskett.

Well, he was a rookie and the team's 5th receiver, but he got to play significant minutes against Atlanta's starters and had 4 catches for 4 yards and a TD.

Granted, it's not exactly "greatness", but I liked him as a college player and in his first chance to show his wares a little, I thought he held up well.

I think he also led the team in catches during the pre-season despite missing most of training camp and the first couple pre-season games.

Not saying he's a proven commodity by any stretch, but I think the combination of the type of prospect he was coming out of college combined with the glimpses he showed in very limited action were good things.

Plus, I'm basically banking on Avant OR Baskett being a long term piece with this team as a #2/#3 WR. I think they are very similar players and the best man will be an Eagle for a long time but I firmly believe those guys have talent.

Are the Patriots worried about stunting Chad Jackson's growth for a year?

And he was their second round pick.

He won't be 100% until 2008 and he was actually less impressive than Baskett last year.

And to be clear, I do understand the point, SZR.

If you think Keyshawn is a significant upgrade and worth shelving those 2 guys for another (and cutting Greg lewis) I think you make the move.

I'm just not 100% sure he is.

He has played in every game for the past 3 seasons and has caught 70, 71, and 70 balls, respectively. Clearly he would catch less as a #3 receiver, but I don't know how you can say he's not a major upgrade, so I guess we agree to disagree. He's a sure target, runs routes extremely well which mitigates his declining speed, and as said before, is an elite blocker for his position. If you bash the Eagles for planning on winning 3 SBs 5 years down the road without winning one first in the here and now, then you're not too worried about the effects this will have on Jason Avant and Hank Baskett of all people. One year. Take a stab.

a couple of things I like from the Scott press conference:

Scott, who had 41 tackles, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery in 18 games (including playoffs) last season, will be in the mix for a spot at a deep position. The Eagles have third-year player Mike Patterson as the starter at left defensive tackle and last year's first-round draft pick Brodrick Bunkley at right defensive tackle. Montae Reagor, a member of the team that beat the Bears last year in the Super Bowl, will rotate in behind Patterson and Bunkley with Scott, fifth-year veteran Sam Rayburn and LaJuan Ramsey. Scott, who is listed as 6-foot-2, 302 pounds, is a specialist against the run who said he can play anywhere between 295 pounds and 320 pounds. His playing weight this year will depend on where the Eagles want him at, but he said he's most comfortable between 310 and 315 pounds.

I hope Bunkley steps up, but if not I really like the fact that this guy is a run stuffer and likes to play between 310-315 about time they got a bigger DT...

Well, fair enough SZR.

With Keyshawn on the team I would envision him as the slot WR and expect him to contribute 30- 40 cactehs for something in the neighborhood of 500 yards.

In my mind, I think Baskett can be every bit as productive in that role.

He's a bigger WR than Keyshawn, fresher legs, more upside, more speed (not much more), could be a great red zone threat with his size/leaping ability, and had a great 1st down ratio as a rookie (17 of 22 catches went for first downs).

With a year in the system, I think he's a lock for the production you'd get our of Keyshawn.

And as far as the Patriots go, they are the favorites right now and they should be, but it will be interesting to see how all this plays out.

This is a complete abandonment of their philosophy.

Harrison is done. Bruschi is done. Samuel is furious and will hold out. Moss is a cancer (just a matter of when) and we'll see how it will go when he gets benches for a few series after dogging it over the middle OR Brady spreads the ball around and he only gets a grab or 2 in a game. Maroney is still hurt and won't be able to lift AT ALL before the season...the backup situation is dicey.

Not saying they shouldn't be the favorites, but this team won with small time players sacrificing for the team and a great defensive coordinator/QB.

Now they have a bit of an All-Star team and ALL the new guys are paid much, much better than the "real" Patriots who took less money to stay. I wonder how that sits with them, too.

Time will tell.

I hope Bunkley steps up, but if not I really like the fact that this guy is a run stuffer and likes to play between 310-315 about time they got a bigger DT...

I like the Scott signing, but "run stuffer" is probably not a great description of Scott.

He's a solid player and better against the run than the pass, but the middle of that D was SHREDDED after Harris when down.

I don't even think you have to look at Keyshawn as a major upgrade to make the move. If you look at him as a mentor to all the young receivers we have, he's worth it. We don't have one receiver on the team with more than 4 years experience.

He spoke at the draft about wanting to help groom some guys at Carolina. I realize the guy's had problems when he was younger, but I think he knows his role now that he's in the twilight of his career and could really help some of the young receivers on the team.

As expected, Sam Rayburn has been released.

Brett Favre wants a tissue to cry in, and a trade out of Green Bay....
"GLAZER REPORTS THAT FAVRE ASKED TO BE TRADED

At a time when all NFL eyes were watching the drama that was unfolding between the Eagles and quarterback Donovan McNabb, a full-blown crisis was quietly playing out in another NFC town.

Jay Glazer of FOXSports.com reports that Packers quarterback Brett Favre asked to be traded in the days after the 2007 draft.

Per Glazer, agent Bus Cook called G.M. Ted Thompson two or three days after the draft and said that Favre is fed up with the organization and wants out. Coach Mike McCarthy immediately began trying to reach Favre by phone, but Favre ignored his calls for a week.

When the two men finally spoke, McCarthy apparently calmed Favre's fury to the point that Favre admitted he didn't want to play elsewhere. But given Favre's recent comments to the Biloxi Sun Herald, about which we wrote earlier on Sunday, it appears that Brett still has a bug buried in his butt.

This latest development meshes with rumors floated on Favre's official web site by a message board administrator. (Scroll down for more.) It also seems that confirm what many league insiders have long believed -- that Favre doesn't care much for G.M. Ted Thompson, who has done little if anything to upgrade the veteran talent on the team over the past three years.

Glazer says that the Packers have no plans to trade Favre, whose contract (per NFLPA records) runs through 2010 and pays him a base salary of $11 million this year. But why would they want him if he doesn't want to be there? And if they won't trade him, maybe he'll just call it quits and let them try to win with (gulp) Aaron Rodgers.

In our view, this one is far from over. And we have a feeling that either Favre or Thompson won't be with the team when the 2007 season begins.

"besides they already have a big, slow possession receiver in Baskett."

.....and a big, slow turnover receiver in LJ Smith.

Oh cry me a freakin' river.

If he wants to spare the Packers as being the team where he gets the INT record, be my guest. But anyone who's been watching this junk can't say they're surprised.

".....and a big, slow turnover receiver in LJ Smith."

Besides the fact that he's fast for a TE and doesn't turn the ball over a lot, this is spot on.

BRILLIANT!

I almost think the Favre thing is GB trying to get some "jabs" in on him. This is the first year since somewhere around 1978 where he has actually told the world he WASN'T thinking about retiring the entire off-season and the like. He's ready to come back and contend...guaranteed for sure this time...no problem...

"Uh, Brett, remember that Morency guy at RB? No? Well Green is gone, and we didn't feel like really trying to replace him..."

"What? A WR? Nope, not this year. How about a back up punter? Does that do anything for you, you egomaniacal hoser?"

...meh...just another in a long string of stories by the media trying to drub up interest in Favre for another off-season's worth of lazy journalism.

from http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/nfl?page=5

Time running out on Eagles' TE talks
Posted: Monday May 14, 2007 05:03AM ET
The Eagles have a decision to make about L.J. Smith, and they're running out of time to make it. Smith's agent has had contract talks with the Eagles over the last few seasons, including some discussions at the end of last season. The sides have never really come close to an agreement on what Smith is worth.

OK this isn't a rumor but I was watching NFL network this morning and Adam Sefert(or whatever his name is) was talking about Kolb being a lock to make the team and obviously McNabb is the starter. Then it gets interesting (his words) the fact that they traded for Spikes and got Holcomb as well and just prior to that they resigned AJ to a 2 year deal with a 2 million dollar bonus it would appear that Kelly is the odd man out... Not so (says the NFL's talking head) the Eagles are going to carry all 4 QB's on the roster into training camp (ok I know this isn't ground breaking news) BUT the reason they are going to carry all 4 is because they believe they are all quality QB's and they will get some trade value from either Kelly or AJ down the line as teams realize they still need a decent back-up QB due to injuries or whatever...

This got me thinking, from what I've seen and heard Holcomb looks sharp, accurate and has a nice bubble... so my guess is that Reid is going to return the favor to Childress and trade AJ to Minny during camp. The Vikes only hace two QB's on the roster, Tarvaris Jackson and Brooks Bollinger I know nothing about Jackson but I am pretty sure Brooks is a pretty crappy QB and should seriously consider switching careers to weather man... BUT IMO if Jackson is the future for the Vikes then it wouldn't shock me at all to see Brad go after AJ to be the man to perhaps tuter or at least help take some pressure off the kids shoulders...

Like I said this is just something that popped into my head but it kind of makes some sense...

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